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PostSubject: More horrific then any horror movie   Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:59 pm

True Crime stories.

City of Corpses



Map of Australia with Adelaide locator.

Laid-back Adelaide, the capital of South Australia with its population of one million, is small in comparison to most of the other capital cities of Australia. Rich in culture and beauty, Adelaide and its surrounding districts are responsible for some of the finest wines in Australia.

Throughout Adelaide, seemingly on every corner, are houses of worship of all denominations. For this reason Adelaide is referred to as the City of Churches. And they have never had to canvas for business. South Australians are notoriously reverent.

But there is an inexplicable dark side to Adelaide. Some are now choosing to call it the "City of Corpses." And it is not hard to understand why. Per capita Adelaide and environs has recorded more of Australia's most notorious crimes than any other Australian capital city. In the annals of Australia's most horrific crimes, laid-back Adelaide's sinister past (and present) makes other cities look like Camelot.

Here's just some of Adelaide's appalling track record of carnage in modern times;

1958: Rupert Max Stuart rapes and murders nine-year-old Mary Olive Hattam at Thevenard.

1966: The three Beaumont children aged 4, 7 and 9 are abducted from Glenelg Beach.


1971: In South Australia's worst mass murders, ten members of the Bartholomew family, comprising of eight children and two women, are shot to death by a man at Hope Forest.

1972: Homosexual Adelaide University Law lecturer, Dr. George Duncan is thrown into the Torrens River and drowns. Two Adelaide vice squad detectives are eventually charged with the death.


1973: Schoolgirl Joanne Ratcliffe, 11, and Kirsty Gordon, 4, disappear from Adelaide Oval while attending a football match and are never seen again.

1976-77: In Australia's worst serial murders, seven women aged 15 to 26, go missing in and around Adelaide over a 51-day period from Christmas 1976. Their skeletal remains are discovered in the Truro district in the Adelaide foothills several years later in what becomes known as The Mass Murders of Truro. James Miller is sentenced to life imprisonment without parole for his part in the murders.

1979: David Szach murders his lover, lawyer Derrance Stevenson, and conceals the body in a freezer in Parkside.

1979-83: Between 1979 and 1983 in what would become known as "the Family Murders," five men are abducted, drugged, held captive, sexually assaulted, hideously mutilated and murdered.

1984: Sexual sadist Bevan Von Einem is tried for the horrific torture and murder of a 15-year-old youth. Later, Von Einem is charged with numerous other horrendous crimes relating to the "Family Murders."

1994: A letter bomb kills Sergeant Geoff Bowen at the Adelaide offices of the National Crime Authority.

1999: In "the case of the casked cadavers in the crypt," six bodies are found in casks filled with acid in a bank vault in rural Snowtown, which leads police to the discovery of another five bodies buried in and around Adelaide. Four men are charged with murder.
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:28 pm

1958: Rupert Max Stuart rapes and murders nine-year-old Mary Olive Hattam at Thevenard.

In December of 1958 the body of a nine year old girl named Mary Hattam was found , with the girl having been raped before murdered. After the services of some aboriginal trackers, known as "blacktrackers" were employed by law enforcement, the focus of the murder investigation fell upon on Mr. Rupert Maxwell Stuart; an Aborigine working with a nearby carnival. In 1959 Rupert was convicted of the rape and murder after a full written confession, and was sentenced to a death by hanging.

The case was not open and shut, however, and once the outrage of the community was a bit more settled the supposed confession of Mr. Stuart soon came into question.

"She was standing in a pool of water, playing. I said to the little girl: 'There is some little birds over there'. I pointed up towards the cave. She said: 'I will go and have a look'. She walked into the cave. No, I am wrong. I crawled in the cave first and she crawled after me. She said: 'Where's the birds?' and I said: 'They are gone now'. I punched her on the side of the head. She went unconscious. I took her bathers off. Then I raped her. She was hard to root. I done her. Then I hit her with a stone."

The above is a portion of the note said by officials to have been written by Rupert who was an illiterate uneducated man known to often be drunk. The confession went into further detail describing a very careful and methodical series of actions perpetrated involving the removing of clothing and such in order to get away with the crime. For some media sources the facts just did not add up and a protest and demands for further investigation began to spread.

Later in 1959 a Royal Commission convened to look into the matter, with the results being that the charges against Rupert would be upheld, though his death sentence was commuted to a life sentence. Mr. Stuart was paroled in 1973 and was returned to prison several times between 1974 and 1984 for parole violations. Whether or not he was the real murderer of the nine year old girl remains a mystery.


1966: The three Beaumont children aged 4, 7 and 9 are abducted from Glenelg Beach.

In 1966, Jane, Arnna, and Grant Beaumont, ages 9, 7, and 4 went to the beach and never returned. The eldest Jane was known to be responsible enough to watch the other two children, however the event of their disappearance had a major affect on the community and how freely they let their children roam.

Witnesses verified that the children were seen playing on the beach with a blonde haired man and then later seen leaving the beach. Jane was then seen in a store buying some cakes and other food items with denominations of money her parents had not given her. The final confirmed witness and sighting of the children was by a postman who saw them supposedly walking alone and towards home. However, throughout the year more claimed sightings were to be reported including one from new Zealand in 2004 saying that the children were living there.

The children were never found nor was the case solved though there have been several suspects followed up on. The primary suspect as been considered to be Bevan Spencer von Einem who was charged with the murder of a man, however was linked to many rumors of experimentations and more killings. According to some he was very fond of children, frequented the beach, and police sketches of the man witnessed near the children fit Einem. On August 11th of 2007 The Weekend Australian newspaper reported that archive news footage is being examined because of a possible von Einem sighting amongst the crowds of onlookers at the proposed crime scene.


1971: In South Australia's worst mass murders, ten members of the Bartholomew family, comprising of eight children and two women, are shot to death by a man at Hope Forest.

In 1971 ten members of the Bartholomew family were shot to death in Hope Forest. Among the dead were: Mrs. Heather Bartholomew, a baby, and a group of siblings aged from four to nineteen. A relative named Clifford Cecil Bartholomew was charged with the shooting, however evidence only convicted him on a single murder count. Clifford received a life sentence, however only served eight years before being released.


1972: Homosexual Adelaide University Law lecturer, Dr. George Duncan is thrown into the Torrens River and drowns. Two Adelaide vice squad detectives are eventually charged with the death.

A University Law lecturer by the name of Dr. George Duncan was thrown into the Torrens river by a group of men, he subsequently drowned. The event was witnessed by a man named Roger James who fears he almost became a victim as well. Dr. George Duncan was homosexual and by the nature of some comments made by the attackers his being thrown into the river seemed to be a hate crime. One man did attempt to save the man by jumping into the river, however it was too late. Eventually a conspiracy was unraveled when Roger James was questioned in an odd manner by law enforcement and felt like he was being prodded into identifying someone he could not say was the killer. In the end it turned out to be two Adelaide Vice Detectives that were charged with the death.


1973: Schoolgirl Joanne Ratcliffe, 11, and Kirsty Gordon, 4, disappear from Adelaide Oval while attending a football match and are never seen again.

In August of 1973 two young school girls, Joanne Ratcliffe and Kristy Gordon attended an Australian Rules Football match at Adelaide Oval with Joanne's parents and kristy's Grandmother. Joanne was 11 and Kristy 4 years old. At the three-quarter time break in events the girls went to visit the restroom facilities and never returned. The case is unsolved though a witness thought he saw the two girls leaving with a man.


1976-77: In Australia's worst serial murders, seven women aged 15 to 26, go missing in and around Adelaide over a 51-day period from Christmas 1976. Their skeletal remains are discovered in the Truro district in the Adelaide foothills several years later in what becomes known as The Mass Murders of Truro. James Miller is sentenced to life imprisonment without parole for his part in the murders.

Starting around Christmas of 1976 and ending in 1977 women began disappearing over a 51 day period. Seven women in the age ranges of 15 to 26 are the missing reported. Years later an informant, later identified as a girlfriend of the killer, tipped the police off to who was responsible. James Miller was investigated, however, Miller denied any involvement. Under pressure from the police who discovered the identity of their informant Miller eventually cracked and confessed to participating in the abductions and murders of the women, which were actually perpetrated by one Christopher Worrell. Miller a homosexual was very close friends wit Worrell and it was Worrell who raped and abducted the women. Miller, however was present and helped dispose of the bodies. Miller took officials to the burial site for some of the women while other skeletal remains were years later found in and around the Truro district. Miller received a life sentence without parole.


1979: David Szach murders his lover, lawyer Derrance Stevenson, and conceals the body in a freezer in Parkside.

In 1979 a lawyer named Derrance Stevenson was found dead inside a freezer at his home; a gun shot wound to the head. His homosexual lover, David Szach, a much younger man, was tried and convicted of the crime. However, Szach maintained that he was innocent and appealed his life sentence. His appeals were denied, however in 1993 he was released and there have been many questions involving the procedures forensics and law enforcement used to prove Szach was the killer. Sloppy police work may have put Szach behind bars, but the question may always remain: did they get the right guy?


1979-83: Between 1979 and 1983 in what would become known as "the Family Murders," five men are abducted, drugged, held captive, sexually assaulted, hideously mutilated and murdered.

A 17 year old named Alan Barnes disappeared, a week later his mutilated body was discovered near a reservoir. Two months later Neil Muir, a 25 year old man, was found beside Port River; cut up and placed in garbage bags. In 1981 14 year old Peter Stogneff vanished, his sawed up skeletal remains were found months later. The body of 18 year old Mark Langley was found nine days after disappearing. The corpse bore the marks of surgical incisions and parts of his lower bowel had been removed. 15 year old Richard Kelvin also disappeared and his body and the death had similarities that made police wonder if the rash of disappearances and murders in the area were all connected. The media got wind of these suspicions and theorized that a cult of homosexuals was preying upon the male youths, murdering to create snuff films. This imagined cult was named: "The Family."

By 1984, trace evidence linked one Bevan Spencer von Einem to the murder of Richard Kevlin and Bevan, a former medical student, received a life sentence. In 1988 he was charged with the murders of Barnes and Langley with a witness testifying that he was also involved with all of the other "Family" murders. There wasn't enough evidence to prove the Barnes and Langley connection nor several other connections implied at trail, though Bevan also became the primary suspect in the disappearance of the Beaumont children from 1966. Adding to the weird and twisted legacy of Bevan's murder charges is his connection to the night Dr. George Duncan was drowned in the Torrens river; as discussed in a previous section. It seems that when witness Roger James fled the scene fearing for his safety he did so by getting a ride from someone driving by. It just so happened Bevan Spencer von Einem was the one to give him a lift.


1994: A letter bomb kills Sergeant Geoff Bowen at the Adelaide offices of the National Crime Authority.

In 1994 a letter bomb sent to the Adelaide offices of the National Crime Authority exploded and killed Sergeant Geoff Bowen. The case remained unsolved until 1999 when a drug dealer named Dominic Perre was charged with the crime. However, Perre's case never went to court and the charges were dropped, making the crime once again: unsolved.


1999: In "the case of the casked cadavers in the crypt," six bodies are found in casks filled with acid in a bank vault in rural Snowtown, which leads police to the discovery of another five bodies buried in and around Adelaide. Four men are charged with murder.

In 1999, police investigating a series of missing person's reports were led by their work and evidence to an abandoned bank on the main street of Snowtown; a town just North of Adelaide. Inside the bank 6 plastic barrels were found filled with acid and containing the severed body parts and remains of at least 8 people.

Investigating within the bank and searching a nearby rented home helped get the police one step closer to catching their suspects. Soon suburban homes were raided and three men were arrested: John Justin Bunting, Robert Joe Wagner, and Mark Ray Haydon. A search of one of Bunting's former residences revealed another body buried and divided up into two garbage bags. Further digging found a second body buried deeper, almost directly below the first one. This brought the body count up to 10. However, more were suspected and eventually an old case file was pulled out and the murder within it attributed to the same men, along with a 12th.

Corpses were not the last thing to be found by the police. A motive of involving a social security pension scam emerged, as well as a fourth suspect. James Spyridon Vlassakis was arrested and charged. A lengthy list of suppression orders has kept the full knowledge and aspects of these crimes from the public; over 250.

Bunting was considered the ring leader of the group and was convicted of 10 of the murders. Bunting and Wagner both received life sentences. Haydon was not convicted of murder, however plead guilty to helping dispose of the bodies and received a 25 year sentence. Vlassakis was jailed for life, with only the first 26 years denying him parole.
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:03 pm

Damn......that is a scary territory...
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:31 am

Mary Bell was only ten years old when she murdered Martin Brown. Present with her at both murders was her 13 year old friend Norma Bell, no relation. Living in a slum area of Newcastle, the children spent their days playing in the derelict houses and demolished rubble in the area. Three boys found the body of Martin Brown in one of these houses and raised the alarm. At the post mortem, the cause of his death could not be positively established, as there were no marks around his neck that should have been present if he'd been strangled. It was concluded that it had been an accident.

The day after Martin Brown had been killed, vandals broke into the local nursery school. Among the chaos they left behind, handwritten notes were found, written by a child, saying "I murder SO THAT I may come back", "Fuch off, we murder, watch out Fanny and Faggot", "You are mice Y Becurse we murdered Martain Go Brown you Bete Look out there are Murders about by Fanny and auld Faggot you Screws" and "We did murder Martain Brown Fuckof you Bastard". Several days after this break in, Norma and Mary were caught having broken into the nursery. They denied having broken into the first time.

It was realised that Brian Howe had gone missing on the afternoon of his death and Mary helped the family look for him. His body was eventually found late in the evening, between two large reinforced concrete blocks, on a wasteground known to the local children as "The Tin Lizzy". His body was thinly covered in grass and weeds. He had obviously been strangled. There were also 6 small stab wounds on his legs which had been inflicted after death. Near his body a pair of bent scissors were found. Due to the amount of pressure that was used to strangle Brian Howe, it was clear that he had been killed by a child.

Mary and Norma were caught when the police interviewed all the children of the area. They were very vague about their movements, and when questioned further, Mary remembered details she'd not remembered before, and implicated her in the murder of Brian Howe, as she described matters that had not been made public by the police that only the killer could have known. After questioning, Norma admitted that Mary had strangled Brian in her presence, and that Mary had also scratched him with a razor blade. She led the police to where this razor blade was hidden. Any such markings were not found at post mortem, but on returning to the body, it was found that the marks were now visible. A faint M had been scratched onto his abdomen.

Norma and Mary Bell stood trial in an adult court. The court room had no dock in it, so that the children could sit close to their legal teams, and their parents could also be close. Norma Bell was acquitted of the murder of both boys, whilst Mary Bell was found guilty of manslaughter due to diminished responsibility. Mary spent 12 years in custody, and was released in 1980, assuming a new identity to protect herself. She gave birth to a daughter in 1984.

Crimes: Murder of Martin Brown, 4, on 25 May 1968 and Brian Howe, 3, on 31 July 1968, in the Scotswood district of Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:23 am

ED GEIN


"I had a compulsion to do it."

Born at the turn of the century into the small farming community of Plainfield, Wisconsin, Gein lived a repressive and solitary life on his family homestead with a weak, ineffectual brother and domineering mother who taught him from an early age that sex was a sinful thing. Eddie ran the family's 160-acre farm on the outskirts of Plainfield until his brother Henry died in 1944 and his mother in 1945. When she died her son was a thirty-nine-year-old bachelor, still emotionally enslaved to the woman who had tyrannized his life. The rest of the house, however, soon degenerated into a madman's shambles. Thanks to federal subsidies, Gein no longer needed to farm his land, and he abandoned it to do odd jobs here and there for the Plainfield residents, to earn him a little extra cash. But he remained alone in the enormous farmhouse, haunted by the ghost of his overbearing mother, whose bedroom he kept locked and undisturbed, exactly as it had been when she was alive. He also sealed off the drawing room and five more upstairs rooms, living only in one downstairs room and the kitchen.

"Weird old Eddie", as the local community know him, had begun to develop a deeply unhealthy interest in the intimate anatomy of the female body - and interest that was fed by medical encyclopedias, books on anatomy, pulp horror novels and pornographic magazines. He became particularly interested in the atrocities committed by the Nazis during the Second World War and the medical experiments performed on Jews in the concentration camps. Soon he graduated on to the real thing by digging up decaying female corpses by night in far-flung Wisconsin cemeteries. These he would dissect and keep some parts heads, sex organs, livers, hearts and intestines. Then he would flay the skin from the body, draping it over a tailor's dummy or even wearing it himself to dance and cavort around the homestead - a practice that apparently gave him intense gratification. On other occasions, Gein took only the body parts that particularly interested him. He was especially fascinated by the excised female genitalia, which he would fondle and play with, sometimes stuffing them into a pair of women's panties, which he would then wear around the house. Not surprisingly, he quickly became a recluse in the community, discouraging any visitors from coming near his by now neglected and decaying farm.This is why I never got into "Faces of Death"

Gein's fascination with the female body eventually led him to seek out fresher samples. His victims, usually women of his mother's age, included 54-year old Mary Hogan, who disappeared from the tavern she ran in December 1954, and Bernice Worden, a woman in her late fifties who ran the local hardware store, who disappeared on the 16th November 1957. Mrs. Worden's son Frank was also the sheriff's deputy, and upon learning that weird old Eddie Gein had been spotted in town on the day of his mother's disappearance, Frank Worden and the sheriff went to check out the old Gein place, already infamous amongst the local children as a haunted house.

There, the gruesome evidence proved that Gein's bizarre obsessions had finally exploded into murder, and much, much worse. In the woodshed of the farm was the naked, headless body of Bernice Worden, hanging upside down from a meat hook and slit open down the front. Her head and intestines were discovered in a box, and her heart on a plate in the dining room. The skins from ten human heads were found preserved, and another skin taken from the upper torso of a woman was rolled up on the floor. There was a belt fashioned from carved-off nipples, a chair upholstered in human skin, the crown of a skull used as a soup-bowl, lampshades covered in flesh pilled taut, a table propped up by a human shinbones, and a refrigerator full of human organs. The four posts on Gein's bed were topped with skulls and a human head hung on the wall alongside nine death-masks - the skinned faces of women - and decorative bracelets made out of human skin. The stunned searchers also uncovered a soup bowls fashioned from skulls, a shoebox full of female genitalia, faces stuffed with newspapers and mounted like hunting trophies on the walls, and a "mammary vest" flayed from the torso of a woman. Gein later confessed that he enjoyed dressing himself in this and other human-skin garments and pretending he was his own mother.

The scattered remains of an estimated fifteen bodies were found at the farmhouse when Gein was eventually arrested, but he could not remember how many murders he had actually committed. The discovery of these Gothic horrors sent shock waves throughout Eisenhower-era America. In Wisconsin itself, Gein quickly entered local folklore. Within weeks of his arrest, macabre Jokes called "Geiners" became a statewide craze. The country as a whole learned about Gein in December 1957, when both Life and Time magazines ran features on his "house of horrors."

After ten years in a mental hospital, Gein was judged competent to stand trial. Although considered fit to stand trial, Eddie was found guilty, but criminally insane. He was first committed to the Central State Hospital at Waupon, and then in 1978 he was moved to the Mendota Mental Health Institute where he died in the geriatric ward in 1984, aged seventy-seven. It is said he was always a model prisoner - gentle, polite and discreet. He died of respiratory and heart failure in 1984.

By then, however, Gein had already achieved pop immortality, thanks to horror writer Robert Bloch, who had the inspired idea of creating a fictional character based on Gein-a deranged mama's boy named Norman Bates. In 1960, Alfred Hitchcock transformed Bloch's pulp chiller, "Psycho", into a cinematic masterpiece. Insofar as "Psycho" initiated the craze for "slasher" movies, Gein is revered by horror buffs as the the prototype of every knife-, axe-, and cleaver-wielding maniac who has stalked America's movie screens for the past thirty years.


If you want to see the story with pictures: http://www.houseofhorrors.com/gein.htm
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:10 pm

I read both about Mary Bell and Ed Gain and they both have very interesting ways…..

I think I have read about every serial killer out there, Mary Bell case is one of the most notorious because of her age and urge to kill since a very young age!!
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:25 pm

Yes, but she is not the only child that killed. It's actually more common then you would want to believe.

I don't think you know every killer. Wink there is just to many of them. But yeah, true crime stories are very interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:28 pm

Eric Harris
Notes and drawings by Eric Harris. (one of the Columbine shooters.)
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:48 pm

This is some intense shit. Where the hell do you get this stuff anyway?
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:58 pm

I was searching the web to do research on the Cross of Lorraine symbol (see Zarra.nl will be changed topic to find out why). And then I found a Christian website, about how evil Boyd Rice is (priest in the Church of Satan, noise artist, writer, etc.) and that website contained the link to that document, which has a image of the cross of Lorraine on page 62, because Boyd Rice is know to use that symbol as well.
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:07 am

I dont mean the columbian document, but all the stuff in this topic. Where do you get this?
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:10 am

I just search for a specific murder chase every time. But a good website for true crime is: http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/ Although I dislike their new lay-out. In the old one it was easier to find things.
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:47 pm

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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:57 pm

One of the many Heaven's Gates initiation tapes

For those who don't remember:
Heaven's Gate is a destructive, doomsday cult centered in California. 21 women and 18 men voluntarily committed suicide in three groups on three successive days starting on 1997-MAR-23. Most were in their 40's; the rest covered an age range of 26 to 72. 1 Two months later, two additional members, Charles Humphrey and Wayne Cooke attempted suicide in a hotel room a few miles from the Rancho Santa Fe mansion; Cooke succeeded. Humphrey tried again in the Arizona desert during 1998-FEB and was successful.

"Heaven's Gate" was the latest of three organizations founded by Marshall Herff Applewhite and Bonnie "Ti" Lu Trusdale Nettles, a.k.a. "The Two." The first was Human Individual Metamorphosis (HIM) which they organized in 1975. They traveled to the Colorado desert to wait for the arrival of a UFO. None came. Bonnie Nettles died of cancer in 1985. Applewhite organized a new group called Total Overcomers Anonymous or "TOA" in 1993. They placed an ad in USA Today, announcing that the Earth's present civilization was about to be "recycled." Applewhite originally went by the nickname "Bo", and more recently was called "Do" (pronounced "Doe"). Marshall moved to San Diego County CA with the group, now renamed "Heaven's Gate", and lived on to become one of the 39 suicides.

They followed a syncretistic religion, combining elements of Christianity with unusual beliefs about the nature of UFOs. They interpreted passages from the four gospels and the book Revelation as referring to UFO visitation. In particular, they emphasized a story in Revelation which described two witnesses who are killed, remained dead for 3 1/2 days, were revived and taken up into the clouds. They look upon earth as being in the control of evil forces, and perceived themselves as being among the elite who would attain heaven. They held a profoundly dualistic belief of the soul as being a superior entity which is only housed temporarily in a body. Applewhite said that bodies were only "the temporary containers of the soul...The final act of metamorphosis or separation from the human kingdom is the 'disconnect' or separation from the human physical container or body in order to be released from the human environment."

They believe that about 2000 years ago, a group of extra-terrestrials came to earth from the Kingdom of Heaven (the "Next Level"). One of these was "Do". He was given instructions by "Ti", his female companion, whom he referred to as his "Heavenly Father." He left his body behind, transported to Earth in a space-ship, and incarnated (moved into) a human body, that of Jesus Christ. A second group of extra-terrestrials returned to earth, starting in the 1920's. Do was the Captain of this expedition; Ti was the Admiral. They each moved into a human body, but somehow became scattered. Do and Ti held public meetings to disseminate their beliefs. They were pleasantly surprised to find that most of their converts were the long-lost crew members.

Members called themselves brother and sister; they looked upon themselves as monks and nuns; they lived communally in a large, rented San Diego County (CA) home which they called their monastery. Most members had little contact with their families of origin or with their neighbors. Many followed successful professional careers before entering the group. Some abandoned their children before joining. They were free to leave at any time. They dressed in unisex garments: shapeless black shirts with Mandarin collars, and black pants. They were required commit themselves to a celibate life. Eight of the male members, including Do, submitted to voluntary castration. This seems to have been a form of preparation for their next level of existence: in a life that would be free of gender, sexual identity and sexual activity.

The group supported themselves through a commercial effort called Higher Source which designed WWW pages for a profit. They also used the Internet as a recruitment tool; they have a site called Heaven's Gate. On their site, Applewhite (calling himself the "Present Representative") drew parallels between himself and the spirit from Heaven that occupied the body of Jesus Christ. Their main page says: "As was promised - the keys to Heaven's Gate are here again in Ti and Do (The UFO Two) as they were in Jesus and His Father, 2000 years ago". They discussed their task is "to work individually on our personal overcoming and change, in preparation for entering the Kingdom of Heaven." Their web site was taken over by the FBI, but some individuals were able to download the site files and create mirrors at various locations.

Marshall Herff Applewhite was gay. There are rumors that he had one or more affairs with male students when he was a music teacher. He is believed to have checked himself in to a hospital over two decades ago in order to overcome his homosexual feelings. This occurred when many therapists believed that a person's sexual orientation could be changed. Needless to say, the therapy was unsuccessful. One theory being proposed is that he was unable to accept his sexual orientation because of the homophobia that he had adsorbed during his youth. This motivated him to live an celibate life and to create a group which also suppressed their sexual behavior. Another theory is that among UFO groups, there is a widespread belief that extra-terrestrials have no vocal cords, an atrophied digestive system and no sexual organs. This is symbolic of three common religious disciplines: silence, fasting and celibacy. Perhaps Applewhite was attempting to emulate both the UFO inhabitants and ancient Christian tradition.

In common with many other UFO groups, they believe that UFOs are inter-stellar space ships operated by extra-terrestrial beings who are attempting to bring humanity to a higher level of knowledge. However, they have a belief not shared by other UFO groups: that by committing suicide together at the correct time, they will leave their containers (bodies) behind. The soul goes to sleep until it is "replanted" in another container. Eventually, the soul will be grafted onto a representative of the "level above human." The latter will be on-board a UFO space ship such as the one that they believe is currently hidden behind the Hale-Bopp comet. A video tape taken shortly before their suicides showed them to be excited about the future. The timing of the suicide was apparently triggered by the arrival of Easter, and by the closest approach to earth of the comet, which they regarded as a celestial "marker". The timing was apparently unrelated to the Spring Equinox of MAR-20. They feared persecution, death, arrest, physical torture or psychological torture while they remained on earth. They felt that this persecution would come from outside their group - either from "some irate individual or from "the powers that control this world." There is one report that the group had a large cache of weapons and ammunition.

A couple of the surviving members of the group who did not "leave" have been maintaining their web site at http://www.heavensgate.com and distributing materials and information that the group left behind. During the 1980's the group made over 500 audio tapes of their secluded classroom teachings. They also made 11 video tapes and wrote a large anthology of their teachings. The survivors have digitized over 200 hours of those audio tapes, and about 20 hours of Video material and stored the entire archive on three CD-ROM's which can be played on a computer using the RealPlayer technology. They feel it is important to offer this world a permanent record of this groups activities. They are making the CD's themselves available at no charge, asking only
that the shipping charges be covered by the recipient. Email rep@heavensgate.com with your postal address to receive the material.

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In preparing to kill themselves, members of the group drank citrus juices to ritually cleanse their bodies of impurities. The suicide was accomplished by ingestion of phenobarbital mixed with vodka, along with plastic bags secured around their heads to induce asphyxiation. They were found lying neatly in their own bunk beds, with their faces and torsos covered by a square, purple cloth. Each member carried a five dollar bill and three quarters in their pockets. All 39 were dressed in identical black shirts and sweat pants, brand new black-and-white Nike "Cortez" athletic shoes, and armband patches reading "Heaven's Gate Away Team." The suicides were conducted in shifts, and the remaining members of the group cleaned up after each prior group's death.[

The original website was taken down, but you can see a mirror of the actual site, with nothing edited in any way, here: http://www.psychwww.com/psyrelig/hg/index.html
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:51 pm

Crazy shit, cant believe people will fall for this, is it more commun among them idiot gringos?
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:34 am

Joining cults is most common among poor and lonely people, who have no change at a future. I think.
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:16 pm

Mjeh, i think it depends on the cult. Scientology has a lot of rich people...


but that doesn't change the fact that they're lonely and pathetic...hmm...
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:53 am

Some info on cults from the book "We know what you want: how they change your mind"

Cults


Self test: Are you being recruited?

Hyped meetings
Rather than explain to you what the group believes or what their program is up front, recruiters will instead insist that you can only understand it if you come to a group meeting. There everyone around you will seem so enthusiastic that you will start to think there is something wrong with you. They create an environment where you will feel uncomfortable and the only way to become confortable is to join them. This is an application of controlled peer pressure.

Intense unrelenting pressure
They call repeatedly. Meet you on campus or outside your work. Trick you into coming for only an hour and then lead you into a long study, meeting or talk. They have to keep the pressure on, otherwise you might snap our of the mind control environment into which they are trying to immerse you.

They tell you that they are not a cult
This is a preemptive strike against the warnings from friends and family members which they know will come. In fact, some cults will go as far as to tell you that Satan will try and dissuade you by sending family members and friends to tell you it is a cult. When this technique is used, a warped form of logic can begin in the recruit's mind; the "agents of Satan" do come and tell them it's a cult. So since the group predicted that this would happen, the group therefore must be telling the truth! Basically, if any group tells you that they are not a cult, or that some people call them a cult, then find out why!


Cults recruit 85% via family
85% of people who join a cult do so through a friend or acquaintance. The Premie (Prempal Rawat a.k.a. Maharaji) followers make this their hunting ground. Cult members are charged with getting a friend, colleague or family member to come to a special introductory video screening or to witness a ceremony. (When there, they find everyone must join in.)


TACTIC: The BITE model
Destructive mind control can be understood in terms of four basic components, which form the acronym BITE:

I Behaviour control - Regulation of lifestyle, habits, time, food, finances.
II Information control - Use of deception, heavy cencorship of internal and external information, spying, propaganda and invasive solicting of confessions.
III Thought control - Absolute submission to doctrine, loaded language, prolonged thought stopping (meditation, chanting, prayers), enquiry management.
IV Emotional control - Manipulation of feelings, excessive use of guilt, use of fear, extreme highs and lows, creation of phobias about the outside world.
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:54 am

Reminder to self, for two very gruesome stories:
* Unit 731
* Albert Fish
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:24 pm

Unit 731


Unit 731 (731 部隊) was a covert biological and chemical warfare research and development unit of the Imperial Japanese Army that undertook lethal human experimentation during the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937–1945) and World War II. It was responsible for some of the most notorious war crimes carried out by Japanese personnel. Officially known by the Imperial Japanese Army as the Kempeitai Political Department and Epidemic Prevention Research Laboratory, it was initially set up under the Kempeitai military police of the Empire of Japan to develop weapons of mass destruction for potential use against Chinese, and possibly Soviet forces.

Unit 731 was based in the Pingfang district of the city of Harbin in the puppet state of Manchukuo. More than ten thousand people, from which around 600 every year were provided by the kempeitai, were subjects of the experimentation conducted by Unit 731. These were both civilian and military of Chinese, Korean, Mongolian, and Russian origin as well as some Japanese criminals from the Japanese mainlands. Some American and European Allied prisoners of war also died at the hands of Unit 731. In addition, the use of biological weapons researched in Unit 731's bioweapons and chemical weapons programs resulted in tens of thousands of military and civilian deaths in China – possibly as many as 200,000 casualties by some estimates.

Unit 731 was the headquarters of many subsidiary units used by the Japanese to research biological warfare; other units included Unit 516 (Qiqihar), Unit 543 (Hailar), Unit 773 (Songo unit), Unit 100 (Changchun), Unit Ei 1644 (Nanjing), Unit 1855 (Beijing), Unit 8604 (Guangzhou), Unit 200 (Manchuria) and Unit 9420 (Singapore).

Many of the scientists involved in Unit 731 went on to prominent careers in post-war politics, academia, business, and medicine. Some were arrested by Soviet forces and tried at the Khabarovsk War Crime Trials; others, who surrendered to the Americans, were granted amnesty in exchange for access to the data collected by them. On 6 May 1947, Douglas MacArthur, as Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, wrote to Washington that "additional data, possibly some statements from Ishii probably can be obtained by informing Japanese involved that information will be retained in intelligence channels and will not be employed as 'War Crimes' evidence. The deal was concluded in 1948.

Because of their brutality, Unit 731's actions have now been declared by the United Nations to have been crimes against humanity.



A special project code-named Maruta used human beings for experiments. Test subjects were gathered from the surrounding population and were sometimes referred to euphemistically as "logs" (丸太). This term originated as a joke on the part of the staff due to the fact that the official cover story for the facility given to the local authorities was that it was a lumber mill. The test subjects were selected to give a wide cross section of the population, and included common criminals, captured bandits and anti-Japanese partisans, political prisoners, and also people rounded up by the secret police for alleged "suspicious activities" and included infants, the elderly, and pregnant women.


Vivisection
* Prisoners of war were subjected to vivisection without anesthesia.
* Vivisections were performed on prisoners after infecting them with various diseases.
* Scientists performed invasive surgery on prisoners, removing organs to study the effects of disease on the human body. These were conducted while the patients were alive because it was feared that the decomposition process would affect the results. The infected and vivisected prisoners included men, women, children, and infants.
* Vivisections were also performed on pregnant women, sometimes impregnated by doctors, and the fetus removed.
* Prisoners had limbs amputated in order to study blood loss.
* Those limbs that were removed were sometimes re-attached to the opposite sides of the body.
* Some prisoners' limbs were frozen and amputated, while others had limbs frozen then thawed to study the effects of the resultant untreated gangrene and rotting.
* Some prisoners had their stomachs surgically removed and the esophagus reattached to the intestines.
* Parts of the brain, lungs, liver, etc. were removed from some prisoners.

In 2007, Doctor Ken Yuasa testified to the Japan Times that "I was afraid during my first vivisection, but the second time around, it was much easier. By the third time, I was willing to do it." He believes at least 1,000 persons, including surgeons, were involved in vivisections over mainland China.





Weapons testing
* Human targets were used to test grenades positioned at various distances and in different positions.
* Flame throwers were tested on humans.
* Humans were tied to stakes and used as targets to test germ-releasing bombs, chemical weapons and explosive bombs.


Germ warfare attacks
* Prisoners were injected with inoculations of disease, disguised as vaccinations, to study their effects.
* To study the effects of untreated venereal diseases, male and female prisoners were deliberately infected with syphilis and gonorrhea, then studied.
* Prisoners were infested with fleas in order to acquire large quantities of disease-carrying fleas for the purposes of studying the viability of germ warfare.
* Plague fleas, infected clothing, and infected supplies encased in bombs were dropped on various targets. The resulting cholera, anthrax, and plague were estimated to have killed around 200,000 Chinese civilians.
* Tularemia was tested on Chinese civilians.
* Unit 731 and its affiliated units (Unit 1644, Unit 100, et cetera) were actively involved not only in research and development, but also in experimental deployment of epidemic-creating biowarfare weapons in assaults against the Chinese populace (both civilian and military) throughout World War II. Plague-infested fleas, bred in the laboratories of Unit 731 and Unit 1644, were spread by low-flying airplanes upon Chinese cities, coastal Ningbo in 1940, and Changde, Hunan Province, in 1941. This military aerial spraying killed thousands of people with bubonic plague epidemics.


Other experiments
* being hung upside down to see how long it would take for them to choke to death.
* having air injected into their arteries to determine the time until the onset of embolism.
* having horse urine injected into their kidneys.
* being deprived of food and water to determine the length of time until death.
* being placed into high-pressure chambers until death.
* being exposed to extreme temperatures and developed frostbite to determine how long humans could survive with such an affliction, and to determine the effects of rotting and gangrene on human flesh.
* having experiments performed upon prisoners to determine the relationship between temperature, burns, and human survival.
* being placed into centrifuges and spun until dead.
* having animal blood injected and the effects studied.
* being exposed to lethal doses of x-ray radiation.
* having various chemical weapons tested on prisoners inside gas chambers.
* being injected with sea water to determine if it could be a substitute for saline.





The Unit 731 complex covered six square kilometers and consisted of more than 150 buildings. The design of the facilities made them hard to destroy by bombing. The complex contained various factories. It had around 4,500 containers to be used to raise fleas, six giant cauldrons to produce various chemicals and around 1,800 containers to produce biological agents. Approximately 30 kg of bubonic plague bacteria could be produced in several days.

Some of Unit 731's satellite facilities are in use by various Chinese industrial concerns. A portion has been preserved and is open to visitors as a War Crimes Museum.

Tons of biological weapons (and some chemicals) were stored in various places in northeastern China throughout the war. The Japanese attempted to destroy evidence of the facilities after disbanding. In August 2003, 29 people were hospitalized after a construction crew in Heilongjiang inadvertently dug up chemical shells that had been buried deep in the soil more than 50 years before.


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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:41 pm

Wow......wow. That's some fucked up stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:14 am

ALBERT FISH




Biography

He was born as Hamy Fish in Washington, D.C., to Randall Fish (1795-1875). He said he had been named after Hamilton Fish, a distant relative. His father was 43 years older than his mother. Fish was the youngest child and had three living siblings: Walter, Annie, and Edwin Fish. He wished to be called "Albert" after a dead sibling, and to escape the nickname 'Ham and Eggs' that he was given at an orphanage in which he spent many of his early years.

Many members of his family had mental illness, and one suffered from religious mania. His father was a river boat captain, but by 1870 he was a fertilizer manufacturer. The elder Fish died of a heart attack at the Sixth Street Station of the Pennsylvania Railroad in 1875 in Washington, D.C. Fish's mother put him into an orphanage where he was frequently whipped and beaten, and eventually discovered that he enjoyed physical pain. The beatings would often give him erections, for which the other orphans teased him.

By 1880, his mother got a government job and was able to look after him. However, his various experiences before this had affected him. He started a homosexual relationship in 1882, at the age of 12, with a telegraph boy. The youth also introduced Fish to such practices as drinking urine and coprophagia. Fish began visiting public baths where he could watch boys undress, and spent a great portion of his weekends on these visits.

By 1890, Fish had arrived in New York City, and he said he became a male prostitute. He also said he began raping young boys, a crime he kept committing even after his mother arranged a marriage. In 1898, he was married to a woman nine years his junior. They had six children: Albert, Anna, Gertrude, Eugene, John, and Henry Fish.

Throughout 1898 he worked as a house painter, and he said he continued molesting children, mostly boys under six. He later recounted an incident in which a male lover took him to a waxworks museum, where Fish was fascinated by a bisection of a penis; soon after, he developed a morbid interest in castration. During a relationship with a mentally retarded man, Fish attempted to castrate him after tying him up. The man became frightened and fled. Fish then began intensifying his visits to brothels where he could be whipped and beaten more often. He was arrested for embezzlement and was sentenced to incarceration in Sing Sing in 1903. He regularly had sex with men while in prison.

In January 1917, his wife left him for John Straube, a handyman who boarded with the Fish family. Following this rejection, Fish began to hear voices; for example, he once wrapped himself up in a carpet, explaining that he was following the instructions of John the Apostle. It was around this time that Fish developed a desire for masochism. He took cotton balls, soaked them in alcohol, and set them on fire in his anus. He also hit himself repeatedly with a nail-studded paddle and would shove needles into his body. He would place these between his rectum and his scrotum. Normally, he would remove them afterwards, but soon he began to insert them so deep that they were impossible to take out. Later x-rays revealed that Fish had 27 needles lodged in his pelvic region.


one of the x-rays

At the age of 55, Fish began to experience delusions and hallucinations. He said that he believed God had ordered him to torment and castrate little boys. Doctors said he suffered from a religious psychosis. It is believed that this bizarre mental state led him to the murders and mutilations he performed.

Early attacks and attempted abductions

Fish committed what may have been his first attack on a child named Thomas Bedden in Wilmington, Delaware in 1910. Later, he stabbed a mentally challenged boy around 1919 in Georgetown, Washington, D.C.. Consistently, many of his intended victims would be either mentally challenged or African-American, because he believed they would not be missed.

On July 11, 1924, Fish found eight-year-old Beatrice Kiel playing alone on her parents' Staten Island farm. He offered her money to come and help him look for rhubarb in the neighboring fields. She was about to leave the farm when her mother chased Fish away. Fish left, but returned later to the Kiels' barn where he tried to sleep for the night before being discovered by Hans Kiel and told to leave.

Grace Budd


Grace Budd and Family

On May 25, 1928, Edward Budd put a classified ad in the Sunday edition of the New York World that read: "Young man, 18, wishes position in country. Edward Budd, 406 West 15th Street." On May 28, 1928, Fish, then 58 years old, visited the Budd family in Manhattan, New York City under the pretense of hiring Edward. He introduced himself as Frank Howard, a farmer from Farmingdale, New York. When he arrived, Fish met Budd's younger sister, 10-year-old Grace. Fish promised to hire Budd and said he would send for him in a few days. On his second visit he agreed to hire Budd, then convinced the parents, Delia Flanagan and Albert Budd I, to let Grace accompany him to a birthday party that evening at his sister's home. The elder Albert Budd was a porter for the Equitable Life Assurance Society. Grace had a sister, Beatrice; and two other brothers, Albert Budd II; and George Budd. Grace left with Fish that day, but never came back.

The police arrested Charles Edward Pope on September 5, 1930 as a suspect in the kidnapping. He was a 66-year-old apartment house superintendent, and was accused by his estranged wife. He spent 108 days in jail between his arrest and trial on December 22, 1930. He was found not guilty.

The letter

Six years later, in November 1934, an anonymous letter was sent to the girl's parents which led the police to Albert Fish. The letter is quoted here, with all of Fish's misspellings and grammatical errors:

Dear Mrs. Budd. In 1894 a friend of mine shipped as a deck hand on the Steamer Tacoma, Capt. John Davis. They sailed from San Francisco for Hong Kong, China. On arriving there he and two others went ashore and got drunk. When they returned the boat was gone. At that time there was famine in China. Meat of any kind was from $1-3 per pound. So great was the suffering among the very poor that all children under 12 were sold for food in order to keep others from starving. A boy or girl under 14 was not safe in the street. You could go in any shop and ask for steak—chops—or stew meat. Part of the naked body of a boy or girl would be brought out and just what you wanted cut from it. A boy or girl's behind which is the sweetest part of the body and sold as veal cutlet brought the highest price. John staid [sic] there so long he acquired a taste for human flesh. On his return to N.Y. he stole two boys, one 7 and one 11. Took them to his home stripped them naked tied them in a closet. Then burned everything they had on. Several times every day and night he spanked them – tortured them – to make their meat good and tender. First he killed the 11 year old boy, because he had the fattest ass and of course the most meat on it. Every part of his body was cooked and eaten except the head—bones and guts. He was roasted in the oven (all of his ass), boiled, broiled, fried and stewed. The little boy was next, went the same way. At that time, I was living at 409 E 100 St. near—right side. He told me so often how good human flesh was I made up my mind to taste it. On Sunday June the 3, 1928 I called on you at 406 W 15 St. Brought you pot cheese—strawberries. We had lunch. Grace sat in my lap and kissed me. I made up my mind to eat her. On the pretense of taking her to a party. You said yes she could go. I took her to an empty house in Westchester I had already picked out. When we got there, I told her to remain outside. She picked wildflowers. I went upstairs and stripped all my clothes off. I knew if I did not I would get her blood on them. When all was ready I went to the window and called her. Then I hid in a closet until she was in the room. When she saw me all naked she began to cry and tried to run down the stairs. I grabbed her and she said she would tell her mamma. First I stripped her naked. How she did kick – bite and scratch. I choked her to death, then cut her in small pieces so I could take my meat to my rooms. Cook and eat it. How sweet and tender her little ass was roasted in the oven. It took me 9 days to eat her entire body. I did not fuck her tho I could of had I wished. She died a virgin.

Mrs. Budd was illiterate and could not read the letter herself, so she had her son read it instead. Fish later admitted to his attorney that he did indeed rape Grace.[14] Fish was a compulsive liar, however, so this may be untrue. He had told the police, when asked, that it "never even entered his head" to rape the girl.

Capture

The letter was delivered in an envelope that had a small hexagonal emblem with the letters "N.Y.P.C.B.A." standing for "New York Private Chauffeur's Benevolent Association". A janitor at the company told police he had taken some of the stationery home but left it at his rooming house at 200 East 52nd Street when he moved out. The landlady of the rooming house said that Fish had checked out of that room a few days earlier. She said that Fish's son sent him money and he had asked her to hold his next check for him. William F. King, the lead investigator, waited outside the room until Fish returned. He agreed to go to the headquarters for questioning, but at the street door Fish lunged at King with a razor in each hand. King disarmed Fish and took him to police headquarters. Fish made no attempt to deny the Grace Budd murder, saying that he had meant to go to the house to kill Edward Budd, Grace's brother.


Albert Fish and Will King, the man who captured him.


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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:14 am

Postcapture discoveries

Billy Gaffney

A child named Billy Gaffney was playing in the hallway outside of his family's apartment in Brooklyn with his friend, Billy Beaton, on February 11, 1927. Both of the boys disappeared, but the friend was found on the roof of the apartment house. When asked what happened to Gaffney, Beaton said "the boogey man took him." Initially Peter Kudzinowski was a suspect in the murder of Billy Gaffney. Then, Joseph Meehan, a motorman on a Brooklyn trolley, saw a picture of Fish in the newspaper and identified him as the old man that he saw February 11, 1927, who was trying to quiet a little boy sitting with him on the trolley. The boy wasn't wearing a jacket and was crying for his mother and was dragged by the man on and off the trolley. Police matched the description of the child to Billy Gaffney. Gaffney's body was never recovered. Gaffney's mother visited Fish in Sing Sing to try to get more details of her son's death. Fish confessed the following:

I brought him to the Riker Ave. dumps. There is a house that stands alone, not far from where I took him. I took the boy there. Stripped him naked and tied his hands and feet and gagged him with a piece of dirty rag I picked out of the dump. Then I burned his clothes. Threw his shoes in the dump. Then I walked back and took the trolley to 59 St. at 2 A.M. and walked from there home. Next day about 2 P.M., I took tools, a good heavy cat-of-nine tails. Home made. Short handle. Cut one of my belts in half, slit these halves in six strips about 8 inches long. I whipped his bare behind till the blood ran from his legs. I cut off his ears - nose - slit his mouth from ear to ear. Gouged out his eyes. He was dead then. I stuck the knife in his belly and held my mouth to his body and drank his blood. I picked up four old potato sacks and gathered a pile of stones. Then I cut him up. I had a grip with me. I put his nose, ears and a few slices of his belly in the grip. Then I cut him through the middle of his body. Just below the belly button. Then through his legs about 2 inches below his behind. I put this in my grip with a lot of paper. I cut off the head - feet - arms - hands and the legs below the knee. This I put in sacks weighed with stones, tied the ends and threw them into the pools of slimy water you will see all along the road going to North Beach. I came home with my meat. I had the front of his body I liked best. His monkey and pee wees and a nice little fat behind to roast in the oven and eat. I made a stew out of his ears -- nose -- pieces of his face and belly. I put onions, carrots, turnips, celery, salt and pepper. It was good. Then I split the cheeks of his behind open, cut off his monkey and pee wees and washed them first. I put strips of bacon on each cheek of his behind and put them in the oven. Then I picked 4 onions and when the meat had roasted about 1/4 hour, I poured about a pint of water over it for gravy and put in the onions. At frequent intervals I basted his behind with a wooden spoon. So the meat would be nice and juicy. In about 2 hours, it was nice and brown, cooked through. I never ate any roast turkey that tasted half as good as his sweet fat little behind did. I ate every bit of the meat in about four days. His little monkey was a sweet as a nut, but his pee-wees I could not chew. Threw them in the toilet.

Trial and execution

The trial of Albert Fish for the premeditated murder of Grace Budd began on Monday, March 11, 1935, in White Plains, New York with Frederick P. Close as judge, and Chief Assistant District Attorney, Elbert F. Gallagher, as the prosecuting attorney. James Dempsey was Fish's defense attorney. The trial lasted for ten days. Fish pleaded insanity, and claimed to have heard voices from God telling him to kill children. Several psychiatrists testified about Fish's sexual fetishes, including coprophilia, urophilia, pedophilia and masochism, but there was disagreement as to whether these activities meant he was insane. The defense's chief expert witness was Fredric Wertham, a psychiatrist with a focus on child development who conducted psychiatric examinations for the New York criminal courts; Wertham stated that Fish was insane. Another defense witness was Mary Nicholas, Fish's 17-year-old stepdaughter. She described how Fish taught her and her brothers and sisters a "game" involving overtones of masochism and child molestation. The jury found him to be sane and guilty, and the judge ordered the death sentence. After being sentenced, Fish confessed to the murder of eight-year-old Francis X. McDonnell, killed on Staten Island. McDonnell was playing on the front porch of his home near Port Richmond, Staten Island in July 15, 1924. His mother saw an "old man" walk by clenching and unclenching his fists. He walked past without saying anything. Later in the day, the old man was seen again, but this time he was watching McDonnell and his friends play. McDonnell's body was found in the woods near where a neighbor had seen the "old man" taking the boy earlier that afternoon. He had been assaulted and strangled with his suspenders.

Fish arrived in March 1935, and was executed on January 16, 1936, in the electric chair at Sing Sing. He entered the chamber at 11:06 p.m. and was pronounced dead three minutes later. He was buried in the Sing Sing Prison Cemetery. He was recorded to have said that electrocution would be "the supreme thrill of my life".[26] Just before the switch was flipped, he stated "I don't even know why I am here." According to one witness present, it took two jolts before Fish died, creating the legend that the apparatus was short-circuited by the needles Fish previously inserted into his body.


Wisteria Cottage, where Grace Budd was killed
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:44 pm

I did read about Albert Fish before, stupid parents that let that poor little girl go with hima lone first day they meet him. Mad
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PostSubject: Re: More horrific then any horror movie   Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:09 am

Yeah, poor child. She must have gone through hell.
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