There is no god!

Well, you cant really compare the sun with god. We have actual proof the sun exists (feeling it, seeing it) but we have no real proof god exists, except the Bible. Although i do have to agree with you on that comparison, that was brilliant. And dont get me wrong, i dont disapprove of you believing, you can do whatever you want. What i do disapprove is those christian fucks that force their religion onto others. Just recently, a Christian party ( the CDA ) disapproved a law that can prevent young girls from getting breats cancer, or at least make sure we can identify it and then help the kids. And it's not just breast cancer, but a scala of other life-threatning conditions. But thhe Christian party disapproves, we cant get a majority and the law wont pass. And why? Because they say it's tempering with god's work. But if god doesn't want us to temper with his works, why didn't he make us perfect to begin with? And why did he give us the technology and the wisdom to temper with his works, if he disapproves of it? That's why i either hate god IF he existed, or am REALLY confident that god doesn't exist at all.

So there. Dark out.

I think there is truth in comparing god with the sun, but in a different way then Greek Warrior intended it.

Because I think that god, is most often a metaphore for the sun. It makes life possible, it creates life. And it's worshipped in many different cultures.










And about tempering with god's work... everything in medical science is tempering with god's work, yet a lot of Christians use doctors, pills, operations, etc, just as much as Atheists.

No no, pills and operations are to prevent us from dying. I'm talking about taking out a gene or cell in a fetus to make sure they dont get breastcancer or other genetic deseases. They disapprove of that.

And the sun as god would make a hell of a lot more sense then some guy in the sky. What also baffles me is that the original writers of the bible knew what hell and heaven looks like. Dont you have to die to get there in the first place? amazes me...

I know what you mean, but the reason they disagree with the foetus-selection is the same as the reason they had in the past to wanted to make autopsies, flu shots, medicines and other such things illegal.

The Sun is not a guy, but it does live in the sky, and you could belief that it watches over us. (the sun is sometimes depicted as a eye)


All seeing eye of the Masons.

Need any more?

Maybe he is willing and able, but lazy.

how can there be no god
if i be god!

Zeitgeist

Interesting 2 hour documentary against religion.

i really want to see it but i'm to lazy
bad bad bad me

You only have to sit and watch How can you be to lazy for that?

Zarra wrote:

You only have to sit and watch How can you be to lazy for that?

index finger lazyness?

I don't believe in the christian God nor any other gods, to me gods are a thing of fantasy.

I really liked the sun quote greek warrior! Nice one!

I'm not really into argumenting that someone is believing the wrong thing...
I'm just discussing beliefs, but the one thing all religions have in common...
They want to convert you to theirs! And no, you can't deny that, so no selfowning posts plx.

In the end, it all matters to what the person feels...
And i'm not speaking of the Christian God here in relation to wars and other crimes commited "in His name", because that's pointless.

Humans will be humans, blood will be shed as long as we keep existing.

All in favor of seizing to exist say AYE!

I think that people take religion way too serious. The bible was a book. Nothing more, nothing less. In that book, there were verses. Verses that you could apply to your personal life, to help you be a good person. Because, seriously, some weird shit was giong on back then. People we're fucking everything that they saw, tried getting married to their left index finger, and kept asking random strangers when it was tolerable to beat their wife. So a bunch of people got together, basically agreed that marriage was between a man and a women, since girls have "innies" and boys have "outies", that sex was pretty much easier with a girl if you're a guy and vice versa, and that it is tolerable to beat your wife WHENEVER THE FUCK YOU FEEL LIKE IT!

But does that mean that we can use the bible to apply to modern life? A time where guys might love "outies" and girls might love "innies", where society more or less accepts this, and where beating your life is a big no-no?

Oh come on, our current society IS Christianity. Our laws, our morals, it's all based on Christ. And life was not as rule-less as you describe it back then. They just had different rules and laws.

My point is, the bible was written as a guide for people how to live. But not a guide as in "live this way or die" but more like "live this way or you're a fucking moron"

So, basically, it's more like a book with advise. At least that's how i interpret it.

Dark Jjay wrote:

My point is, the bible was written as a guide for people how to live. But not a guide as in "live this way or die" but more like "live this way or you're a fucking moron"

So, basically, it's more like a book with advise. At least that's how i interpret it.

It's a book full of lies and fantasy.

Vlad wrote:

Dark Jjay wrote:

My point is, the bible was written as a guide for people how to live. But not a guide as in "live this way or die" but more like "live this way or you're a fucking moron"

So, basically, it's more like a book with advise. At least that's how i interpret it.

It's a book full of lies and fantasy.

Duh?

We don't have to prove that God exists, it's called a religion because we believe in it, someone who does not experience what a true believer does, can not understand..

It might sound a bit harsh, but it's true..

If you want proof that He exists, there is one way: follow Him.

But how can you follow something if you don't belief in it (yet)?

Zarra wrote:

But how can you follow something if you don't belief in it (yet)?

Well, how did you end up being a believer in what you do?

I think, most people who have expierenced enough cruelty, would start searching for help. Which they can find in christianity (sometimes). For example someone whose mother died in a car accident and they don't believe she can be just gone forever, the kid would want to get answers and look for what are the possibilities of things that are greater than death..

So that is one thing some people happen to believe in Him in the most unthinkable situations, a life threathening situation, seeing ghosts and hearing voices, on the plane, during the visit of a church or hearing a song..

There are many ways how God reaches people.. you never know really but if you want to get to know Him and more about christianity, there is nothing that's in your way. Look for Him and He will find you.

Everyone gets a call, but not everyone answers them, I think that's the best way to explain it.

That's kinda the thing that makes this religion so hard for me.
I want to believe, but I need something to see/touch.

I've had enough experiences with my own madness, which can be a powerfull tool in creating ghost worlds where all seems plausible and taken too far, can go into the real world claiming to be real things...

That's kind of the thing that makes it personal tho, we're all crazy and see our own things, but its hard for another to see if he's on a whole new level of crazy!


Altho the above does sound kind of....crazy...